[BC] QUESTION FOR THE

[DANA PUOPOLO]

Run conservatively, rechipped, recapped 8000s with diff. input stages (or
Jensen Transformers) and good release time modules can blow away many DSP
based processors.

As Bob knows, the two weaknesses the 8000 had were the power supply and its
stereo generator. Both can be upgraded, resulting in a marvelous sounding unit
that is still quite loud.

The same is true of the 8100. I know of one station (AAA format) that tried
both an 8400 and an Omnia 6. They could have kept either but instead went back
to....

A rechipped, recapped pair of Texar Prisms and an 8100. This sounded better
then BOTH newer units.  

Now don't get me wrong....I like DSP based units. They can sound awfully
good...BUT in this case with this format, older sounded better.

Of course, older equipment must be brought up to: "like new or better then new
condition". This includes replacing dried up electrolytics, using better
(newer) opamp chips, replacing older polyester and tantalum caps with
polypropolene or polystyrene ones (or even better, no caps and a servo). 

Also, the units need to be properly re-aligned.

If this is done, however, the older equipment can still hold its own against
newer gear. 

-D



------ Original Message ------
Received: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 11:08:41 AM PST
From: Robert Orban <rorban at earthlink.net>
To: broadcast at radiolists.net
Subject: Re: [BC] QUESTION FOR THE "MIND" MASSES

At 09:39 AM 12/9/2005, you wrote:
>From: Rich Wood <richwood at pobox.com>
>Subject: Re: [BC] QUESTION FOR THE "MIND" MASSES
>To: Broadcast Radio Mailing List <broadcast at radiolists.net>
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>Owners, Managers and Salepeople who haven't been exposed to listening
>data want it loud. Most of my career I've had access to all Arbitron
>data so I could follow my syndicated stations. I go back to the days
>of Jim Schulke when he bullied his affiliates about everything from
>processing to promotion. Those stations that processed as he demanded
>were, almost universally, dominant in their markets. It was the kind
>of processing unheard of today. Even AOR stations (who took Easy
>Listening formatics and low spot loads) processed cleanly. Listeners
>were passionate about recreating a concert or studio experience.

There are a few classical stations whose processing is in the Schulke 
spirit. However, Schulke required first an Audimax/Volumax set up very 
specifically, and later a slightly modified Optimod 8000, also set up very 
specifically, and few stations are still using these. (I suspect there are 
still a fair number of 8000s on the air.)

The good news is that, when set up conservatively, some of today's 
DSP-based processors are capable of far more transparent sound than these 
old chains.

Bob Orban




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