[BC] SBE Focus

Wed May 18 01:26:06 CDT 2005

Ron, why are you so purely combative?  Your comments address nothing and the
first few are downright rude!

I would expect the organization to have their job listings posted when they
say they should be...and be current. I would have them come up with training
materials and classes so that the next time I go to a job interview for a TV
CE position and get asked: How much DTV experience do you have I can answer:
"Well, I received SBE training on DTV", instead of having to say that I pick
things up fast. I would expect things like group life insurance plans, and
health insurance ones too. I would expect REAL reference materials to be
available for those who choose to go into contracting. I would expect some
kind of salary survey so when I'm asked: "What are you looking for", I can
know the average salary for that market. I want to know what contracting rates
are too.

In other words, I'm looking for the SBE to give me the same things that a
member of just about every other professional organization gets as a matter of
course. Is this so unreasonable?

-D

------ Original Message ------
Received: Tue, 17 May 2005 06:35:07 PM PDT
From: "Ron Castro" <ronc at sonic.net>
To: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" <broadcast at radiolists.net>
Subject: Re: [BC] SBE Focus

What did you expect the SBE to do, send you a check every week?  Give you 
grief counseling?  Sue your old employer?  I can't understand what you would 
expect the organization to do.  Operating an employment database is 
extremely helpful to both job seekers and employers, and I can tell you that 
most of the engineering positions I have filled came by way of the SBE. 
Even if that was the only thing they did, it would be a valuable 
organization, but they do much more.

If the only indictment of the SBE you have is that they were late on putting 
out a job listing, I would say two things.  First of all, the jobs listing 
work is a volunteer position.  Second, if you can do it better, you should 
rejoin and volunteer to make it work better.

Ron Castro
Chief Technical Officer
Results Radio, LLC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DANA PUOPOLO" <dpuopolo at usa.net>
To: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" <broadcast at radiolists.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [BC] SBE Focus

> Mario is right on point here. I joined the SBE in 1974 as a student while
> still in college. My membership number was 2868. I was an SBE member for 
> 28
> years. I quit for the exact reasons Mario states. As an example, at one 
> point
> I found myself unemployed and found the SBE's services (or lack thereof) 
> to be
> totally USELESS! The only things they offer are a resume database and the 
> job
> listings. The job listings are supposed to come out every Thursday. They
> hardly ever do. Sometimes they don't come out for weeks at a time. But 
> I'll
> bet all the FCC coordination filings are all filed right on time!
> SBE, get out of the "helping the stations' " business and BACK INTO the
> "helping the MEMBERS' " business. Then you might get me back!
>
> -D
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:26:17 AM PDT
> From: Mario Hieb <reader at oldradio.com>
> To: broadcast at radiolists.net
> Subject: [BC] SBE Focus
>
> My beef (again) is that SBE is chartered as a professional organization
> (with a responsibility to the membership) and not a
> representative/lobbyist/activist/apologist of the broadcast licensee, the
> NFL, NAB, etc.
>
> These organizations can afford high-priced attorneys, lobbyists and
> consultants to look out for their interests. SBE should focus exclusively
> on the needs of the individual engineer, and there are many.
>
> SBE's focus should be on three things:
>
> 1. SBE members.
> 2. SBE members.
> 3. SBE members.
>
> After this, the focus should be on:
>
> 4. Professional development of SBE members.
> 5. Engineering education.
> 6. Salary issues.
> 7. Professional ethics.
> 8. Safety, life and property issues.
>
> Yeah, it's cool to hang out with the big boys, but they don't pay the dues
> and many SBE members are getting perturbed.
>
>
> Mario
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 11:06 PM 5/11/2005, you wrote:
>
>>Message: 26
>>Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:09:04 -0400
>>From: "Mike McCarthy" <mre at ais.net>
>>Subject: Re: [BC] SBE
>>To: Broadcast Radio Mailing List <broadcast at radiolists.net>
>>Message-ID: <200505120309.j4C394CB095329 at mail1.mx.voyager.net>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>>I'm on the FCC committee. We don't comment on all matters which come
>>before us.  We also don't expend much of the society's resources
>>either. Most of the work is done by e-mail and electronic means...which
>>are virtually zero cost. I fail to see your argument about mis-using
>>society resources.
>>
>>We do file comments on matters of technical substance which apply
>>universally to all licensees in either of the services or modes and/or
>>where a precedent could set a very BAD example. We don't enter into
>>standards debates other than to possibly concur with the proposed
>>stndard if we feel it's the right thing.
>>
>>It has been the long standing hallmark of the society to address
>>matters of interference and coorination so as to prevent such.  SBE
>>collaberates with the NAB, MSTV, and other industry groups on comments
>>where a universal voice is appropriate. Case in point, SBE fought the
>>proposed on-channel warning system by pointing out alternative channels
>>and modes which already exist for that application and to point out the
>>falicy onin their system.
>>
>>We joined with MSTV on fighting MSS and getting all of the MSS
>>proponents, then Nextel to pay for relocation expenses to all incumbant
>>uses of 2 Ghz ENG cahnnels.
>>
>>The FCC approached us on assisting them in cleaning up Part 74
>>issues.  And except for the Part 101 coordination and video assisted
>>cameras for making movies, the SBE's industry comments and suggestions
>>prevailed in that effort.
>>
>>So Mario...what's your beef with SBE this week?  Long time readers know
>>you are not their biggest supporter.  But I'm sure Ray Benedict would
>>like to know since you are a member.
>>
>>MM
>
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>
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