[BC] What the SBE should be .. and should not be

[Bernie Courtney]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's probably not a football fan :-)

and for what its worth having just myself having dealt with 2 GDC a
few months ago, I can say they were actually much more eager to help
and easier to deal with then some of the "professional" coordinators
I've encountered in the past.  Maybe because they spend more of their
time DOING things instead of staring at their diploma hanging on the
wall.

furthermore for those who disagree with the GDC program on here, and
even go as far as to question its legality; why don't you put your
money where your mouth is and hire a lawyer and fight your case if you
are so sure you would be victorious.  This would be a lot more
effective then sitting around making (possibly) slanderous comments
based purely in speculation on the Internet.

Bern

On 5/18/05, Ron Castro <ronc at sonic.net> wrote:
> So let's see here.  Your long list of complains about the SBE are: NFL, NFL,
> NFL and also NFL.
> 
> So?
> 
> Ron Castro
> Chief Technical Officer
> Results Radio, LLC
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mario Hieb" <reader at oldradio.com>
> To: <broadcast at radiolists.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 2:22 PM
> Subject: [BC] What the SBE should be .. and should not be
> 
> 
> > Sorry Chris, I disagree; this is an excellent forum to discuss SBE related
> > issues. It's good that many of these things see the light of day.
> >
> > Before I go on, I should say that I've been a Chapter Chairman, SBE Board
> > nominee and have recruited many members. Let me also say that SBE does do
> > many good things for it's members.
> >
> > Let me again distill the issues I have with SBE:
> >
> > 1. SBE should be ONLY a professional organization. It should not be in the
> > engineering business. It should not be involved in NFL volunteer frequency
> > coordination; NFL should hire a good frequency coordinator. Sorry Ray, but
> > I don't share your belief that NFL or the TV networks (including your
> > employer, Viacom) can't afford to pay for it.
> >
> > SBE should not be subsidizing the NFL; they should not recruit volunteers
> > to provide discount engineering services to a for-profit entity. SBE does
> > not stand for Subsidized By Engineers.
> >
> > 2. SBE is too interested in tangential issues, such as NFL coordination.
> > It doesn't focus on what professional organizations should be doing.
> > Often, the interests of the engineer differ from the interests of the
> > client/employer. SBE should support only the engineer, that's what it's
> > chartered to do.
> >
> > 3. SBE doesn't set high standards of professionalism. Professionals do not
> > volunteer services to for-profit entities.
> >
> > 4. SBE doesn't set minimum levels of education for engineers. All other
> > professions require this.
> >
> > 5. SBE doesn't live by their Code of Ethics. NFL GDC is an example of
> > this.
> >
> > 6. SBE doesn't police their own membership.
> >
> > 7. SBE (to my knowledge) doesn't promote the protection of life and safety
> > of the general public. Yes, there are life and safety issues in broadcast
> > engineering.
> >
> > 8. SBE doesn't ask the question: "Is this in the best, long-term interest
> > of the profession?"
> >
> >
> > Chris, if you watch this list, you know that many engineers are frustrated
> > with their lot in life. They are seen professionally as something slightly
> > higher than a janitor.
> >
> > SBE could do so much to help this problem. All it would take would be to
> > adopt a few techniques that have worked well for other professions and be
> > the best example of high professional standards.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mario
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 11:06 AM 5/18/2005, you wrote:
> >
> >>Message: 18
> >>Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:27:17 -0500
> >>From: "Scherer, Chriss" <CSCHERER at primediabusiness.com>
> >>Subject: [BC] RE: SBE Focus - specific responses
> >>
> >>
> >>Mario:
> >>I have again shared your comments with Ray Benedict. As president of the
> >>SBE he or his designate is the spokesman for the Society. He has asked me
> >>to share this with you and this list.
> >
> >
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