[BC] 35mm Telecine - Was: KTLA Television...

Larry Bloomfield Larry
Thu Feb 16 17:45:57 CST 2006


We had the GPL 35mm at KNXT. The 16mm were all Eastman. I seem to recall 
that we also had an 8mm projector, but I'm not sure.

LB

PeterH5322 wrote:

>>When I was at KHJ I remember threading the 35mm projector.  Two films
>>that I remmeber running off that thing (damn was it noisy) were The
>>Great Escape and Casablanca.
>>at that time, IIRC.
>>    
>>
>>>One thing that impressed me about KTLA's film presentations was it 
>>>insisted on 35mm prints, where available. Second in the market in 35mm 
>>>was KHJ.
>>>      
>>>
>
>Both stations had pairs of RCA TP-35s. Great projectors.
>
>Remember, Rachael, that some guy had obtained a TP-35 from a dumpster and 
>he wanted a manual.
>
>I suggested that he contact you at KTLA, and apparently they (and you) 
>still had the doc.
>
>So, I guess he was happy.
>
>General Precision also made 35mm projectors for telecine use, but the RCA 
>TP-35 was the "definitive" example of such a projector.
>
>Eastman Kodak patented a 35mm fast pulldown mechanism which purported to 
>achieve the speed necessary for telecine applications, but it only got as 
>far as its very good 250 Model 16mm telecine, which, in turn, was based 
>on its very good Model 25 arc lamp projector.
>
>In re: 35mm prints ...
>
>There are two versions extant of "Red River", the 16mm version offered by 
>UA-TV, and also available for projection, which is really a "workprint" 
>version, and is not fully orchestrated, nor is the finale complete; and 
>the 35mm version, which I have only seen presented by KNXT (now KCBS-TV).
>
>Incredibly, the "Red River" DVD is from the workprint version, not from 
>the completed film.
>
>Also in re: 35mm prints ...
>
>When KTLA got, in syndication, what were formerly NBC's "Monday Night 
>(et. al.) at the Movies" titles, it received the very same 35mm prints as 
>NBC was provided ... complete with NBC's triangular through punches for 
>continuity cues.
>
>Strange, as NBC H'wood Blvd had TP-35s, and these could use conductive 
>cues, so there really was no good reason to damage an essentially 
>one-of-a-kind print in that way.
>
>The 16mm prints of those same titles were so many generations removed 
>from the original, that those presentations were like looking at 8mm home 
>movies, in comparison with KTLA/KHJ (and KNXT) presentations.
>
>Oh, back then, NBC was still using Iconoscopes for its (monochrome) film 
>chains, although every other shop in town had converted to TK-21s.
>
>I believe NBC then had all of one TK-26. KHJ had at least two, if not 
>three.
>
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