[BC] Microwave path de-coupling...
Burt I. Weiner
biwa
Sun Jul 2 10:19:38 CDT 2006
In the microwave world this phenomena is known as de-coupling; where
the beam is steered away from the receive antenna by
super-defraction. This is quite common along desert microwave
paths. Imagine a streamer such as a kite tail tied to the center of
a fan. Essentially the same thing. A more visible and common
example is the twinkling of stars or distant city lights. The common
method for minimizing the effects is to use diversity antennas and
sometimes receivers. This is one of the reasons I do not like to use
large dishes on the transmit end of long paths. On long paths I use
the smallest dish I can get away with on the transmit end and as
large a dish as I can on the receive end. With the narrow beamwidth
of a large dish the signal is more likely to suffer from
de-coupling. A fat lobe can certainly help to minimize de-coupling.
One other thing that I've seen cause problems is a path that is
inadvertently aligned on minor side lobes. When aligning dishes,
always take wide sweeps to make sure you are not on minor or side
lobes. Misalignment this way will certainly kill your fade margin.
When I had my two-meter repeater on Mt. Wilson I was using a RCA
TVM-1 TV microwave link that I moved down into the 5 GHz Ham
Band. The path was 38 miles across the city. I kept having long,
deep fades due to de-coupling. The receive dish was a four foot and
the transmit end was a six foot dish. I reversed the two dishes and
that greatly minimized the deep fades.
Burt
At 07:22 PM 7/1/2006, you wrote:
>From: Robert Reymont <robert at reymont.com>
>Subject: Re: RE: [BC] WLS dead cxr prob. this a.m. at ~6:50
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>I have had a number in instances where the best solution for a
>inversion layer is multiple receive antennas at different heights on
>the tower. One instance in Sacramento where an antenna mounted on
>the roof and one mounted 150' on the tower. You could watch the
>receive signals on the two receivers... one went up while the other
>went down. The receivers would switch when the signal was below the
>squelch levels. Kept the station on the air about 99% of the time.
>
> I also found the same problem in Orlando with a twenty mile
>hope. Antennas mounted at 150' and 450' solved the problem.
>
>
>At 09:16 AM 7/1/2006 -0700, you wrote:
> >In this case, where there was an inversion layer causing the STL "beam" to
> >miss the receive antenna, I wonder if another antenna at the receive site
> >would have suffered the same signal loss at the same time. MANY years ago,
> >the TV station in San Luis Obispo got almost all of its programming from
> >its sister station in Salinas with a bunch of long microwave hops. They
> >had two receivers and two receive dishes. A comparator watched the AGC
> >voltage and switched to the receiver that had a better signal. This space
> >diversity system worked pretty well for them. There WERE times when both
> >receivers faded, but more often it was just one of them.
> >
> >Harold
> >
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>Robert Reymont
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