[BC] AudioVault, Now Cascading Algorithms

Dana Puopolo dpuopolo
Sun Jul 2 22:10:37 CDT 2006


Let me tell you about one of those highbrows (true story).
A friend of mine used to work for a high end audio store in Harvard Square,
Cambridge (MA). He went to a highbrow's house to install a pair of Magnaplanar
speakers and two monoblock Krell amplifiers to drive them. These VERY pricey
speakers are basically the large equivalent of an RCA 44 BX microphone They
are dipole ribbon speakers with large ribbons. Big bucks in cost, and very
large (though not very thick).
The Krells cost something like $10K the pair, the Maggies another 5 or 6
Kilobucks.  Total over $20K with cables.

But, I digress.

My friend had his portable CD player hooked up to a 10 watt Archer PA
amplifier he kept in his van, He had ONE Maggie hooked up to the PA amp.
He was running the CD player in mono to entertain him while he pulled speaker
cable through the walls.

The highbrow owner walked into the room and exclaimed: WOW! Listen to that
GREAT imaging! 

My friend  advised the guy that the imaging would be getting even better once
he was done (no he tactfully didn't mention hooking up the other speaker that
was sitting there silent).

THAT'S highbrow!!

-D



------ Original Message ------
Received: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 08:43:52 PM EDT
From: "Steve" <shnewman at alaweb.com>
To: "Broadcasters' Mailing List" <broadcast at radiolists.net>
Subject: Re: [BC] AudioVault, Now Cascading Algorithms


As usual Dana one gets beat up because some don't understand where one is 
coming from. (I'm not coming at you) Let me repeat this for all to clearly 
see. Yes....WAV or any lossless format is the best way to go. I was simply 
stating the average listener can't tell the difference. We have pretty high 
brow listeners to WorldSpace on our classical channel and many, who choose 
to run us into their huge systems and scopes say they don't hear any 
artifacts. It amazes our engineers but we take the compliments as they come. 
Now, if there is a musical form where you are going to hear those, that's 
the one. We have terabytes of storage  for all the various formats and, yes, 
we use WAV files. Some of our works run 90 minutes in length. Need I tell 
you dats a lotta bytes. My original discussion was about Audio Vault in some 
cases being overkill (smaller software/hardware packages) and then it 
drifted to loosey formats and listener perception. Nothing more or less. I 
don't think I have to repeat myself because I'm sure you saw some of my 
analogies about going from Multi-Track to the Stereo/Mono Mixdowns (all 
tape) to a 45rpm record when that was the medium. I believe the argument 
holds water in that we move down from on high most all of the time. Oh, and 
I totally agree with you about the cost of hard drive space allowing us to 
use lossless formats.

Steve


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dana Puopolo" <dpuopolo at usa.net>
To: "Broadcasters' Mailing List" <broadcast at radiolists.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BC] AudioVault, Now Cascading Algorithms


Well, with 300 gigabyte serial ATA drives seling for under 100 bucks, why
would you want or need to perceptual code. Besides, there's also lossless
systems like FLAC, which reduce space by 50% on average.

-D



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