[BC] Finding a freq (WAS: LPFM vs. AM on FMx'lators)

[Bailey, Scott]

Well, sounds like the only option your owner has is to buy somebody else
out. The band is just way too crowded up there, and that's my whole
point to this nonsense NAB proposal. In most area's, there is no more
room for any translators, even at 1-3 watts!
The only way an AM could get a FM translator is if the FCC would allow
the AM station to buy an existing one from someone who already has one
licensed, on the air, or an approved CP for one.  Forget it when it
comes to groups like WAY-FM, KLOVE, or Three Angels.  They are not
giving up, or selling anything! 
This who NAB proposal is the most stuipist thing I've seen. The whole
organization is starting to turn into a joke.

Scott

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Subject: [BC] Finding a freq (WAS: LPFM vs. AM on FMx'lators)

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In a message dated 07/21/2006 10:16:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
SBailey at nespower.com writes:

>   It must be so congested up there, that you are trying to tell me you
>  can't use one of the Class C's at night?  You would go Omni
Directional
>  at night, at 1 KW, and can't you cover your community of license on a
>  Class C, let's exclude 1490!

1230, WKND, Manchester CT. ~45 miles
1240, WWCO, Waterbury. Audible here. ~25 miles
1340, WYBC, New Haven (tx in West Haven) <10 miles
1400, WSTC, Stamford, ~25 miles
1450, WCUM, Bridgeport. <10 miles
1490, WGCH, Greenwich, CT ~25 miles

So, as you can see, there ain't none! "Congested" is an absolute 
understatement.

>     OR....if the X-Band is reorganized, you can't do 1 KW, omni at
night
>  on one of those channels?

We did apply. On the FCC issued list of 88 stations to get a frequency,
we 
were number 238. (If I remember correctly. Could have been #283.)
Suffice it to 
say, we weren't even close to being an "also-ran" in that contest.

>     I wanted to do this, go to 1400 during the experimental period, 12
AM
>  to 5 AM, change frequency from 1560 to 1400, drive around at 1 AM and
>  just see what my coverage was at 250 watts, and see if it would cover
my
>  COL. This would be a good experiment for me! 

I believe that would be 100% illegal. You can only transmit on your own 
frequency during the ex-p.

>  Now remember, what's in
>  our computer databases and on paper vs. reality is two different
things.

Granted. In some cases, it's far worse! For example, check out this
nifty 
little "toy":

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/vacant

Punch-in 06460 (WFIF's ZIP code) There's a station on every one of those

frequencies. Granted, some are quite weak, but they're also adjacent to
some 
rather strong signals, and some of those are now transmitting FM IBUZ,
so what the 
computer thinks is "empty", isn't. Now try 06156, the ZIP for West
Haven, 
where I live. Of all of those frequencies it shows, only 104.5 is even
slightly 
useful for a P15 device. Since an LPFM just signed-on in LI on that
channel, 
it's a lot noisier. (The station is barely audible, sporadic, from
hilltops in 
West Haven.) 96.9 has a new station in LI in 2005, so that freq is
occupied.

Yup. Reality & theory... very different, indeed.

Willie...
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