[BC] How lists work --was-- gmail question

[Cowboy]

On Friday 20 February 2009 11:24 pm, Kim Sacks wrote:
>  Not sure if this made it to the list the first time I sent it....
>  Gmail web interface shows the following text as a "draft", even though
>  I already hit send... but I was on an unreliable connection. Sorry if
>  this shows on the list twice.

 I see it once.

>  I think I may have worded that incorrectly. My posts do not show as an
>  incoming email, they show as a sent email in the same subject thread.
>  My own posts never come back into my inbox. I do not see the [BC] list
>  tag at the bottom of my own email to/from the list, this is why I'm
>  assuming that my posts to the list do not come back to my inbox. It
>  makes it difficult to tell if the email actually made it to the list
>  which is now the case with this email...

 Then, gmail has you stuck with either seeing a reply, such as this one,
 or checking the archives at radiolists.net for the particular list.
 OR.......

 If you originate a post, and you see that [BC] then it came back
 from the list processor. You KNOW it posted.
 If you reply, then there's already that tag in the Subject line, so
 you can't tell, UNLESS you remove it before hitting send.
 The list processor will add it back in, and you'll know.
 ( its purpose is to identify a post from which list, so you can
 locally filter it into a BC mailbox "folder" or similar )

 A number of other things are also changed when a post goes
 through the list, most of which you'd never see.
 The message ID code, the routing, and such.
 All of these things identify a post, even one coming back to
 you from the list, as a new message.
 If you ( in particular because I've checked your settings ) are
 not seeing the "reflection" then about the only way that can
 happen, is if gmail is censoring content.
 I'd call that a REALLY bad spam filter, if you can't control it.
 ( or simply a badly broken mail system )

 There's also the footer added by the processor ( courtesy
 of Systems Store ) which behaves similar to the Subject tag.
 Removing that isn't as conclusive, as we try to remove duplicate
 footers on behalf of those who do not edit replies, BUT if you
 have removed it from a reply, and of course it won't be on
 an original post, and you DO see it on what you wrote, then you
 know it was added by the list processor. Your message posted.
 If you never see a footer on your own posts, then gmail is
 SELECTIVELY censoring on PARTIAL content.
 That would scare the beejeebers out of me, enough to never
 use that mail system, as you can't know what ELSE they are
 censoring "on your behalf" without your knowledge or consent.

-- 
Cowboy