[BC] Operator license replacement

[Rob Atkinson]

hi steve,

i'm not real familiar with the commercial license situation--it's my 
understanding that the general op. license replaced the set of numbered 
class radiotelephone licenses.

what i did not know is that they quit giving out the diploma type 
certificates, which I thought they were still doing.   I had assumed you got 
something like the old 1st cl. phone but saying "General" instead of "First 
Class."  From other's remarks, i take it you now just get a card, similar to 
a ham license, which in my opinion is too bad.    The trend seems to be 
"license reduction" for lack of a better term--a guy I know, who holds a FRA 
locomotive operator license showed it to me once--it was just a piece of 
white paper in his wallet.   Don't know if pilots get anything fancy from 
FAA or not.

FCC floated a proposal to hams a year or two ago, to quit issuing paper 
completely--they just wanted to license a ham by creating a database record 
for him, stating that the paper wasn't really needed by them anymore--the 
only thing that really mattered was the record in the database.   Hams 
screamed about that, informing FCC that they needed paper to get reciprocol 
licenses abroad, and some other reasons i can't remember now.  But it showed 
how FCC wants to reduce as much work as possible.

rob atkinson
k5uj

From: "Steve" <shnewman at alaweb.com>
Reply-To: Broadcasters' Mailing List <broadcast at radiolists.net>
To: "Broadcasters' Mailing List" <broadcast at radiolists.net>
Subject: Re: [BC] Operator license replacement
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:37:01 -0600

Rob:

I have a small card that replaced my First Class Radiotelephone License. 
Unfortunately, I didn't get to the commission in time to get the larger 
license. Will they now issue the larger, frameable licenses again? If not, 
I'll save the time and keep the card. Anymore for those of us who struggled 
through getting our First phones would like the larger for bragging rights 
if nothing else. I guess it's now called General Radiotelephone, correct?

Thanks!

Steve
Steve Walker Productions


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Rob Atkinson
   To: broadcast at radiolists.net
   Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:53 AM
   Subject: [BC] Operator license replacement



   You can file for a replacement certificate.  go to:

   http://wireless.fcc.gov/commoperators/pg.html

   Near the bottom it says:

   How to Obtain a License

   Submit FCC Form 605 and FCC Form 159 (fee processing form) along with the
   appropriate Proof of Passing Certificates (for the requisite written 
and/or
   telegraphy examination elements) to apply for any commercial operator
   license, with the exception that endorsement examinations do not require 
the
   filing of the Form 159 or any fees. Also, Restricted Radiotelephone 
Operator
   permits have no proof of passing certificate requirement. Use the FCC 
Form
   605 and the FCC Form 159 to renew your license or to replace a lost, 
stolen,
   or mutilated license. Many Commercial Operator License Examination (COLE)
   Managers file these documents for applicants who test with them. Ask your
   COLE Manager if they provide this service to their customers.

   rob atkinson
   st. charles IL
   k5uj

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