[BC] IBOC Thoughts /was/ IBOC Query

DANA PUOPOLO dpuopolo
Mon Feb 6 11:33:24 CST 2006


Why?

The other station is in 100% compliance with all FCC rules. In fact, they run
a very clean shop there.

This isn't their fault, it's the fault of the FCC. 

I'd be filing a complaint against the FCC with the courts.

-D


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From: "Paul Smith W4KNX" <paul at amtower.com>
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Subject: RE: [BC] IBOC Thoughts /was/ IBOC Query

If I were the rimshot, I would immediately notify my counsel and have a
formal interference complaint filed against the other station.  This will at
least get it on record.  There are rules about interference.  Let the FCC
decide which one of their rules is correct, the IBOC rules that allow the
interference or the other rules that prohibit interference.  I know the
final R&O is not out yet but several complaints like this might get the
FCC's attention.  And dont let anyone think that the consortium that is
behind IBOC doesnt know of this benefit on FM.  We've talked it to death on
AM.  Its just that on most receivers, you cant hear the FM buzz because the
receiver thinks its some kind of AM noise and mutes on the ibuz.

Paul Smith

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But, But Phil...there's one truly unique thing about IBOC- and it isn't
good!

In the entire almost 90 year history of radio, IBOC is the first development
out there that does not affect your frequency. Instead, it adversely affects
your neighbor's frequency.

Just this should have relegated it to the scrap heap before it began!

I suspect that adoption of IBOC might have sales related ulterior motives
that
we might not comprehend as engineers.

True example: In one major market there are two class B FM stations 400 kHz
away that have the same formats. One is established, with a long heritage,
well respected in what it does. The other is newer, trendier, but frankly
not
nearly as good.  The older of the two is a rimshot about 22 air miles out of
the city. The newer one has it's transmitter right downtown on a skyscraper.

The newer one turned on IBOC a while back - obliterating the other one
within
a 5 mile radius of downtown. This is WELL within their 2 mv/Meter contour.
This benefits the newer one - not by offering better quality, or more/better
programming to the public, but instead by interfering with the competition's
signal WITHIN its FCC authorized coverage area.

Do I blame the newer station?  No. What they are doing is 100% legal.

The FCC is to blame....for ALLOWING a system that does this to stations.

WE as engneers are to blame....for ALLOWING it as well!

Again, in the almost 90 years history of radio, this has never been allowed
to
happen before. Indeed, the FRC (later FCC) came into being in the 1920's
with
the mandate to ELIMINATE interference beytween stations.
Now the FCC is responsible for makiing it worse, and we as engineers are
rolling over and letting them!

We should all be ashamed of ourselves.

-D



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Received: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:02:54 AM PST
From: "Phil Alexander" <dynotherm at earthlink.net>
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Subject: [BC] IBOC Thoughts /was/ IBOC Query

However, good or bad, IBOC is the system we have, and it
appears it is the only system we will be getting. You say
correctly that we shape our tools, then they shape us.
Radio is, has been for decades, technologically stagnant.
Unless we reshape this tool into one that can participate
in the future, it is only a question of when, not if, we
turn the switch one last time and put out the lights
because we are irrelevant.

Can IBOC fix this? I don't know, nor does anyone else. The
sure thing about invention is its unpredictability. Unless
we start, we remain stuck where we are as we slowly become
less relevant day by day, year by year. The history of new
technology is stimulation of new ideas. We have been given
IBOC. Can we fix it, at least partially? Probably, if the
FCC opens it enough to prevent total Ibiquity domination.




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