[BC] Signoff Question

[Tom]

I'd always heard that, as well - which is why I asked about how they 
handled the non-programmed part of the day - shut down, or a cart with 
no cue tone.  My first mentor explained it to me this way, as best as I 
recall...

"The carrier itself is information; operating frequency, effective 
radiated power, and so forth."  Also, don't forget there's even an 
emission designator for dead carrier - "N" - so an STL transmitter left 
on is running "N0N" emission....

Tom S.

Mike McCarthy wrote:
> Because the carrier is active, it should be ID's at the top of the 
> hour regardless of whether the main station is on the air.  I seem to 
> recall that being covered in rules other than Part 73 or 74 under 
> general station operations during quiescent times.
>
> MM
>
> At 02:32 PM 1/2/2008 -0800, James .JD. Davis wrote
>> It makes more sense to me that you would NOT be required to ID the STL
>> during off times because you are not "TRANSMITTING PROGRAM MATERIAL OR
>> INFORMATION"... That part seems pretty clear.
>>
>> James .JD. Davis
>> Chief Engineer
>> Results Radio, Chico-Yuba City
>> KTHU-FM - KRQR-FM - KBQB-FM
>> KCEZ-FM - KKCY-FM - KMJE-FM
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: broadcast-bounces at radiolists.net
>> [mailto:broadcast-bounces at radiolists.net] On Behalf Of Tom
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:14 PM
>> To: Broadcasters' Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [BC] Signoff Question
>>
>> Here's the rule from Harold's copy...
>>
>> http://www.hallikainen.com/FccRules/2008/74/582/
>>
>> (a) Each aural broadcast STL or intercity relay station, when 
>> transmitting
>>    program material or information shall transmit station identification
>> at the
>>    beginning and end of each period of operation, and hourly, as close
>> to the
>>    hour as feasible, at a natural break in program offerings by one 
>> of the
>>    following means:
>>
>>    *(1)  Transmission  of its own call sign by aural means* or by 
>> automatic
>>    transmission of international Morse telegraphy.
>>
>>  * (2) Aural transmission of the call sign of the radio broadcast
>> station with
>>    which it is licensed as an STL or intercity relay station.
>> *
>>
>> So, theoretically, the STL's ID is covered by the main ID, although
>> there's no prohibition from using more than one method of identifying...
>>
>> Other question is, since the main station is off-air, do they actually
>> shut off the STL, or do they have a "cueless" cart running an ID loop,
>> or what?  remember, the STL still has to ID every hour, even if the main
>> station is off...
>>
>> TV stations that sign off generally put up bars-and-tone, with the STL
>> call supered over the bars somewhere mid-picture; obviously, that
>> wouldn't work for an aural STL.
>>
>> Tom S.
>>
>> Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote:
>> > When an AM Daytimer signs off at sunset are they required to ID their
>> > licensed STL?
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