If my memory still serves me correctly, there is an inverted L still in use in Los Angeles. I believe the freq is either 1230 or 1240. It was on top of a building just south of the Santa Monica Freeway near down town. * Larry Bloomfield*, *KA6UTC* 1980 25th St., Florence, OR 97439 (541) 902-2424 Everything WWW.TECH-NOTES.TV