[BC] IT troubles

Mike McCarthy Towers at mre.com
Thu Jan 10 12:11:35 CST 2008


There are certain instances where I agree with you 100%.  OTOH, there are 
others which if you DON'T practice that level of accountability, major 
ramifications can result.

Case in point:  A client had a salesman who sold like the dickens for about 
6 months.  A lot of NTR type advertisers which one would never think could 
or did in the past advertised...heavily.  Many were cash up front to start 
and eventually gained net-30 accounts. Others the sales guy vouched for 
them because he was the big dog seller.  In this case, many of e-mails 
around the sales were done on the sale's persons personal account since the 
station had sold, flipped formats and the new IT support services (station 
e-mail accounts, etc.) were not in place and operating properly (it was a 
messy close...almost never happened). Turns out what is too good to be true 
usually is.  Most of the NTR advertisers started to default after about 4 
months and the sales contracts were VERY poorly written.  Alone they would 
not have held up under courtroom scrutiny.  (Needless to say, a few people 
were booted at the station after everything came to light.)

HOWEVER, because the client insisted on stateful packet recording of 
certain ports in the firewall early on, they eventually found many of the 
e-mail exchanges sent through the company's network. Enough that the 
forensic attorney could assemble complete sequences of threads. With the 
e-mails located and sequenced, the station's attorneys had enough to not 
only go to court and seek orders of payment against the defendants with 
damages and attorney's fees due to fraudulent intent, they also had sales 
person charged with conspiracy since the e-mail showed a clear and very 
convincing history of fraudulent activity.  I don't know what happened to 
that case....and it's just as well...

To that end, the person who doesn't possess material control 
(read...ownership of the equipment and pathways) is rightfully excluded to 
any rights of  privacy.  Sid's case also points in that same direction, but 
covering a differing aspect of the laws in force today.

Pres., Jackson's comment is apropos here too.  Eternal vigilance well 
served the people who wrongfully suffered at the hand of these 
conspirators.  Thus THEIR liberties were preserved by the stateful 
recording of the transmissions and were rightfully awarded what was "stolen".

MM

At 09:14 AM 1/10/2008 -0700, RichardBJohnson at comcast.net wrote
>Well said. In America I have the expectation of privacy.
>That is our birthright. Mike McCarthy and others who
>think like him should be ashamed for squandering
>our birthrights for the fleeting feeling of security, thereby
>denying future generations the full experience of
>being an American.
>
>Andrew Jackson and Wendell Phillips stated,
>"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."
>
>At your leasure, please see http://freedomkeys.com/vigil.htm
>
>Oh! You didn't see the security camera on Main Street
>when you were scratching yourself?
>
>
>--
>Cheers,
>Richard B. Johnson
>
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Rich Wood <richwood at pobox.com>
>
> > It's always amazed me that corporate executive offices are locket
> > tighter than a drum. The only people who have access beyond the
> > occupant is the cleaning crew. The people with the least loyalty to
> > the company have the greatest access. Many executive don't think much
> > about it and are lax in locking up sensitive information.
> >
> > In the case of email one should consider it as secure as a snail mail 
> postcard.
>
>
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